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| Title: |
SP 4-10-2 #5000 - Souther Pacific |
| Description: |
Massive example of a 1925 Alco-Schenectady oil burning locomotive built for the Southern Pacific. Specifics - class SP-1, 63.5" drivers, 225 psi boilier pressure, 25x32" outside cylinders (2), 25x28" inside cylinders, engine weight 445,000 lb, tractive effort of 86,589 lb. Drury (1993) notes that they were too rigid for the curves snaking through the Donner Pass, where they were first tried. After relocation to the Sunset Route east of Los Angeles, the 4-10-2s ran until the mid-1950s. It is there - between Roseville and Summit, Calif on a 2 1/2%, 80-mile grade - "...the engines were remarkably successful because the operating condtions prevented excessive speeds and the even torque of the three cylinders prevented undue stalling at low speeds." No exact date, location or photographer was listed. |
| Photo Date: |
6/1/1950 Upload Date: 3/24/2015 7:33:57 AM |
| Location: |
Unknown, CA |
| Author: |
Gary Everhart |
| Categories: |
Roster,Yard,Steam |
| Locomotives: |
SP 5000(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
1614 Comments: 1 |
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| Title: |
SP 4-10-2 #5000 - Southern Pacific |
| Description: |
Here is an older b&w reprint of Southern Pacific 4-10-2 #5000 at an unidentified locaiton, possibly Roseville, CA, where this class of locomotives frequented on its travels over Donner Pass. Date is approximate and unfortunately no photographer was listed for the photo. |
| Photo Date: |
6/1/1950 Upload Date: 8/30/2015 7:05:48 AM |
| Location: |
Unknown, CA |
| Author: |
Gary Everhart |
| Categories: |
Roster,Yard,Steam |
| Locomotives: |
SP 5000(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
1531 Comments: 1 |
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| Title: |
SP 4-10-2 #5005 - Southern Pacific |
| Description: |
The fireman of this 1925 Alco-Schenectady built "Overland-type" (or better known as "Southern Pacific-type") locomotive looks ready to pull out with its freight in tow from an unidentified yard, possibly Roseville, CA. Specifics - SP-1 class, 63.5" drivers, oil burner, generated a boiler pressure of 225 psi for its three sets of cylinders, an engine weight of 445,000 lb and produced a tractive effort of 86,589 lb. According to several resources, the locomotive was an excellent performer at speeds between 30-35 mph but suffered maintenance problems at higher speeds and too rigid to perform well on the sinuous curves of Donner pass, but excelled on the Sunset Route east of LA. Date and location are approximations. No photogrpaher listed. |
| Photo Date: |
6/1/1950 Upload Date: 5/30/2014 8:36:08 AM |
| Location: |
Unknown, CA |
| Author: |
Gary Everhart |
| Categories: |
Roster,Yard,Steam,Action |
| Locomotives: |
SP 5005(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
1092 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
SP Alco 4-10-2 #5021 (Stored) |
| Description: |
SP 5021. Later to the Pomona Fair grounds. |
| Photo Date: |
11/27/1975 Upload Date: 5/17/2020 10:35:25 AM |
| Location: |
Los Angeles, CA |
| Author: |
Steven Vincent |
| Categories: |
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| Locomotives: |
SP 5021(4-10-2) |
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899 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
SP 5021 |
| Description: |
SP 5021 is on display at the LA County Fairgrounds in Pomona. |
| Photo Date: |
4/29/1976 Upload Date: 7/20/2024 9:02:59 PM |
| Location: |
Pomona, CA |
| Author: |
Ron Hawkins |
| Categories: |
Roster,Steam |
| Locomotives: |
SP 5021(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
71 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
Gauges in the #5021 |
| Description: |
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| Photo Date: |
9/21/2007 Upload Date: 11/24/2008 9:42:57 PM |
| Location: |
Pomona, CA |
| Author: |
Shelley H. |
| Categories: |
Steam |
| Locomotives: |
SP 5021(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
318 Comments: 1 |
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| Title: |
#5021 |
| Description: |
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| Photo Date: |
9/21/2008 Upload Date: 10/9/2008 11:09:03 PM |
| Location: |
Pomona, CA |
| Author: |
Shelley H. |
| Categories: |
Steam |
| Locomotives: |
SP 5021(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
287 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
5021 sitting on display next to a signal display |
| Description: |
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| Photo Date: |
9/13/2009 Upload Date: 12/22/2009 2:28:59 PM |
| Location: |
Pomona, CA |
| Author: |
Shelley H. |
| Categories: |
Steam |
| Locomotives: |
SP 5021(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
311 Comments: 2 |
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| Title: |
SP 5021 |
| Description: |
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| Photo Date: |
8/1/2010 Upload Date: 9/18/2010 12:50:31 PM |
| Location: |
Pomona, CA |
| Author: |
Eric Rodriguez |
| Categories: |
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| Locomotives: |
SP 5021(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
3217 Comments: 1 |
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| Title: |
SP 4-10-2 #5023 - Southern Pacific |
| Description: |
Unique 3 cylinder and 4-10-2 wheel configuration makes this a rare locomotive. Only SP and UP tried this model - successful for SP (who called it a Southern Pacific type) but not for UP (who called it an Overland type). SP 4-10-2 #5023 was built by ALCo-Schenectady in May of 1926 (serial #66795). After nearly 27 years of service, the loco was "vacated "in November of 1953 and scrapped a month later at the Sacramento Shops. Specs - oil burner, 63" drivers, impressive 225 psi boiler pressure, 25x28" and 28x32" cylinders, engine weight of 445,000 lb, tractive effort of 84,200 lb. Arthur B Johnson photo |
| Photo Date: |
12/28/1946 Upload Date: 2/18/2023 5:12:59 AM |
| Location: |
Indio, CA |
| Author: |
Gary Everhart |
| Categories: |
Roster,Yard,Steam |
| Locomotives: |
SP 5023(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
241 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
SP 4-10-2 #5045 - Southern Pacific |
| Description: |
This 1927 Alco-Schenectady built "Overland-type" (or better known as "Southern Pacific-type") locomotive sits in an unidentified yard, possibly Roseville, CA, awaiting its next orders. Specifics - SP-3 class, 63.5" drivers, oil burner, generated a boiler pressure of 225 psi for its three sets of cylinders, an engine weight of 445,000 lb and produced a tractive effort of 86,589 lb. According to several resources, the locomotive was an excellent performer at speeds between 30-35 mph but suffered maintenance problems at higher speeds and too rigid to perform well on the sinuous curves of Donner pass, but excelled on the Sunset Route east of LA. Date and location are approximations. No photogrpaher listed. |
| Photo Date: |
6/1/1950 Upload Date: 5/30/2014 8:26:53 AM |
| Location: |
Unknown, CA |
| Author: |
Gary Everhart |
| Categories: |
Roster,Yard,Steam |
| Locomotives: |
SP 5045(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
1182 Comments: 1 |
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| Title: |
UP 5090 at Summit |
| Description: |
Tom Gildersleeve set |
| Photo Date: |
5/12/1950 Upload Date: 1/9/2024 5:40:45 AM |
| Location: |
Cajon Summit, CA |
| Author: |
Tom Gildersleeve |
| Categories: |
Steam,Action |
| Locomotives: |
UP 5090(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
201 Comments: 2 |
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| Title: |
UP 5515 and UP 5090 |
| Description: |
Tom Gildersleeve set |
| Photo Date: |
5/12/1950 Upload Date: 1/3/2024 5:36:43 AM |
| Location: |
Cajon Summit, CA |
| Author: |
Tom Gildersleeve |
| Categories: |
Steam,Action |
| Locomotives: |
UP 5515(2-10-2) UP 5090(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
176 Comments: 1 |
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| Title: |
LA&SL #5092 & UP #1613 |
| Description: |
Scanned with an Epson V550 from a 35mm slide, brand is unknown. |
| Photo Date: |
12/8/2014 Upload Date: 8/7/2016 9:19:08 PM |
| Location: |
Victorville, CA |
| Author: |
J. Lytle/Tom Gildersleeve Collection/Paul Frantz Collection |
| Categories: |
Steam |
| Locomotives: |
UP 5092(4-10-2) UP 1613(FA1) |
| Views: |
1338 Comments: 1 |
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| Title: |
UP 5093 with broken rods |
| Description: |
Tom Gildersleeve set |
| Photo Date: |
4/6/1950 Upload Date: 1/3/2024 5:51:45 AM |
| Location: |
Cajon Pass, CA |
| Author: |
Tom Gildersleeve |
| Categories: |
Steam,Action |
| Locomotives: |
UP 5093(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
191 Comments: 2 |
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| Title: |
UP 4-10-2 #5094 - Union Pacific Overland |
| Description: |
Battling a steep grade is the Alco-Brooks 4-10-2 #5094. Built in June of 1926 as Los Angeles & Salt Lake (LA&SL) #8803, it was rebuilt with two cylinders rather than the original three and renumbered 5094 when it entered the UP roster. Original specs - serial #66729, 63" drivers, 28x30" outside cylinders, 25X30 center cylinder, oil burner, engine weight of 4-5,700 lb, tractive effort of 72,400 lb.The loco was "vacated" in February of 1948. No location, date or photographer was given but the photo must have been taken after the 1942 renumbering and before retirement in 1948. Spencer T2D (see comment below) helped out with identifying the location as Mormon Rock at Cajun Pass, CA. Thanks Spencer for your help! |
| Photo Date: |
6/1/1945 Upload Date: 3/12/2020 10:17:27 AM |
| Location: |
Mormon Rocks Cajon P, CA |
| Author: |
Gary Everhart |
| Categories: |
Roster,Steam,Action |
| Locomotives: |
UP 5094(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
606 Comments: 2 |
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| Title: |
UP 5095 on local |
| Description: |
Tom Gildersleeve set |
| Photo Date: |
5/20/1950 Upload Date: 3/11/2024 6:03:45 PM |
| Location: |
Cajon Pass, CA |
| Author: |
Tom Gildersleeve |
| Categories: |
Steam,Action |
| Locomotives: |
UP 5095(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
112 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
UP 4-10-2 #5099 |
| Description: |
Originally built by Alco-Brooks as 3 cylinder UP 4-10-2 #8808 (serial #66734, class FTT-1), it proved to be less successful than predicted so the UP shops rebuilt the loco in January of 1943 by removing the center cylinder and renumbering it UP 5099 (class FTT-1-2). Since the loco was scrapped in November of 1949 at Pocatello, ID, this may be one of the very last photos taken of it before the scrapper's torch reached it. Jack A. Pfeifer photo |
| Photo Date: |
8/19/1948 Upload Date: 6/1/2022 7:44:34 AM |
| Location: |
Pocatello, ID |
| Author: |
Gary Everhart |
| Categories: |
Roster,Yard,Steam |
| Locomotives: |
UP 5099(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
256 Comments: 1 |
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| Title: |
UP 4-10-2 #8000 - Union Pacific |
| Description: |
Nice action shot of the Alco-Brooks built 4-10-2 delivered to Union Pacific as #8000 in April of 1925. This configuration was called "Southern Pacifics" by most railroads except UP which labeled these "Overlands". Specs - builder #66169, FTT-1 class, 63" drivers, 210 psi boiler pressure, 3 cylinder design, engine weight of 404,000 lb, tractive effort of 77,917 lb. Note on the back of the photo states "54 cars, 10 mph" Otto Perry photo |
| Photo Date: |
7/29/1928 Upload Date: 2/12/2017 8:01:45 AM |
| Location: |
Laramie, WY |
| Author: |
Gary Everhart |
| Categories: |
Roster,Steam,Action |
| Locomotives: |
UP 8000(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
1486 Comments: 1 |
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| Title: |
UP 4-10-2 #8804 |
| Description: |
Built by Alco-Brooks in May of 1926, this 3 cylinder variant was primarily used for the Los Angeles & Salt Lake Rwy. Union Pacific labeled the 4-10-2 wheel configuration as "Overland" rather than using the traditional label of "Southern Pacific' type for obvious reasons. The loco was not very successful and was rebuilt by the UP shops in April of 1942 to a two cylinders style and renumbered UP 5095. The rebuilt loco lasted until being scrapped in April of 1953 at Cheyenne, WY. Original specs - 63" drivers,210 psi boiler pressure, 25x30" high pressure cylinders, 25x28" low pressure center cylinder, engine weight of 404,000 lb, tractive effort of 77,917 lb. Unknown photographer |
| Photo Date: |
7/31/1933 Upload Date: 6/1/2022 7:44:40 AM |
| Location: |
Pocatello, ID |
| Author: |
Gary Everhart |
| Categories: |
Roster,Yard,Steam |
| Locomotives: |
UP 8804(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
296 Comments: 1 |
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| Title: |
UP 4-10-2 #8807 |
| Description: |
The "long legged" UP 4-10-2 #8807 was built by Alco-Brooks in May of 1926 (serial #66733, class FTT-2. Although not particularly successful as a 3 cylinder variant, the loco was rebuilt by the UP shops. They removed the center cylinder and dropped the boiler pressure to 200 psi in the overhaul done in Jamuary of 1943. It was renumbered UP 5099. Both versions (labeled "Overland" by the UP) were used primarily in the LA&SL system. The rebuilt loco lasted until being scrapped in March of 1954 at Pocatello, ID. Original specs - 63" drivers,210 psi boiler pressure, 25x30" outside cylinders, 25x28" center cylinder, engine weight of 404,000 lb, tractive effort of 77,917 lb. Unknown photographer |
| Photo Date: |
12/1/1939 Upload Date: 6/1/2022 7:44:50 AM |
| Location: |
Yermo, CA |
| Author: |
Gary Everhart |
| Categories: |
Roster,Yard,Steam |
| Locomotives: |
UP 8807(4-10-2) |
| Views: |
305 Comments: 0 |
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