CSX 1705

Name	Type	Comments	Date

Jim Bruce	General	Unit is a GP11.	5/4/2008 1:21:40 PM

William Grimes	General	No Jim Bruce unit is not a GP11!!! This is CRR version of a GP16, not GP11. This is how you can tell a difference between the IGC GP11 and the CRR GP16 (which this is); the evidence in is the short hood. On CRR's GP16 the whole cab is moved forward a few feet giving it a "short snoot" type nose. If my description is confusing just look at the two closely for a while. Unit is a GP16.	7/6/2008 4:42:45 PM

Jim Bruce	General	Unit IS a GP11.This Clinchfield GP11 rebuild was one outsourced to the ICG/PNC shop at Paducah, KY and is an Illinois Central Gulf Paducah Shops rebuild. ICG designated these as GP11 locomotives. ICG Paducah-rebuilt GP11 locomotives were numbered in the 8700-series. Clinchfield Railroad also had 6 of these GP11 locomotives. These were also built by ICG-Paducah, and are betrayed by the shortened nose (to accomodate a new electrical cabinet behind the cab,) spartan cab and the primary air filtration system, which is mounted atop the hood behind the forward radiator section. The GP16 is a product of Seaboard System and Family Lines' own Geep rebuild progam, with units dubbed Uceta Geeps, because of the shop that did the work, followed, and these encompassed core units from most of the Family Lines component roads.	11/24/2008 12:45:34 PM

G Gerard	General	Jim is correct on this one. This is a GP11. SS decided they could do the job in their own shops and produced the GP16, and called the GP11 out sourced by ICG a GP16. Thank you for posting a photo of these rare birds in the Family Line scheme.	9/24/2014 6:51:40 AM

CSX 1705
Date: 5/3/2008	Location: Huntington, WV	Views: 961	Collection Of: B G
Locomotives: CSX 1705(GP16)			Author: Brian Gessel

Picture Categories:		This picture is part of album: Early CSX era scans

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